Stephen Meyer and David Berlinski were together in Cambridge, England, for a Discovery Institute event. They sat down to discuss the past, present, and future in more personal terms than audience members may be accustomed to, starting with a dinner in Washington, DC, in 2004 when both felt that the obstacles to the ID movement seemed possibly beyond overcoming. Meyer reflects that these kinds of conversations between the old friends and colleagues are usually confined to late night chats when the time zones in Seattle and Paris permit. But here, we get to listen in and enjoy: